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    check this news guys

    dispensing plan for EU Rx, what do you think guys?


    ADV:
    1- people going on holidays/tourists could have their scripts dispensed in other EU country
    2- globalisation of retail dispensing through EU
    3- the process is only possible if some drugs are AGREED to be " Best option" for certain conditions
    4- add on

    DIS:
    1- more work to be done, more headaches
    2- increase in overall of dispensing costs " contacting EU prescribers for enquires/ cost of phone calls"
    3- add on
    Last edited by Rafael; 26, December 2008, 12:52 PM.
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    Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

    Interesting topic...

    May I start with this question..
    Can European citizens have a prescription dispensed in the UK on the basis of visiting a UK-registered GP, obtaining an NHS Rx, and having it dispensed, free of charge, on production of a valid European Health Insurance card? The GP has dealt with the problem, and written the script, probably on foot of a European script,or more likely, empty box he has been shown. I believe that script (or empty box) should have been brought directly to the pharmacy, because that is our role.

    If this system is approved, there should be little to worry about, as it is already pretty much in place. The only problem , I think, would be prescription wording, and understanding some abbreviations etc. to which we are not yet fully accustomed. I had a few difficulties with Rx's from a new Polish GP, but soon copped on to the "lingo".

    Personally speaking, I also found the prescribing habits of this GP to be somewhat revolutionary, and very refreshing.

    Basically, I'm all for it.

    Please bear in mind that I practise in Ireland, and my comments are pretty much based on the way we do it here. As long as we are provided with a home address in the native country, we will be re-imbursed for supply. (includes UK).Supply is free..even if they normally pay Rx charges in UK....
    Last edited by Fleegle; 8, July 2008, 10:17 PM.
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    • #3
      Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

      I had NHS script where pts address was given as Romania.
      johnep

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      • #4
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        "I had NHS script where pts address was given as Romania."
        yeah but believe the new plan means " prescriber address be any address within EU"
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        • #5
          Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

          Originally posted by Fleegle View Post

          Please bear in mind that I practise in Ireland, and my comments are pretty much based on the way we do it here. As long as we are provided with a home address in the native country, we will be re-imbursed for supply. (includes UK).Supply is free..even if they normally pay Rx charges in UK....
          But only if they see an Irish GP and get it written on a green GMS form----they still have to pay full whack for scripts written abroad don't they? ( I think). So a UK patient with a NHS rx would have to pay for it as a private rx in Ireland , but could get it free if an Irish GP re-wrote it on a GMS form and wrote a European (eg UK in this case) address on it.

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          • #6
            Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

            That's it in a nutshell. Irish GP's appear to have no problem prescribing on a GMS form for European residents...How the GP is paid, I do not know. If a UK NHS Rx was presented, I would probably be obliged to charge in full, but I usually make a phone call. Based on the EU card, a GMS prescription will generally be forthcoming.

            Re address as "Romania", I have received mail addressed "Clare, Ireland"!!
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            • #7
              Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

              From next month UK pharmacists will be authorised to dispense prescriptions that originate in Europe. European prescriptions to be valid in the UK | PJ Online
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              • #8
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                Wow--time to open a shop in Newry !!! They will make a fortune now !!!!

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                • #9
                  Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

                  European prescriptions eh ?? So if they're written on the right form which is used in that country, by a doctor who you never heard of, and for an item you cannot read, it can still be dispensed ?
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                    Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

                    Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                    European prescriptions eh ?? So if they're written on the right form which is used in that country, by a doctor who you never heard of, and for an item you cannot read, it can still be dispensed ?
                    yup, and you have to go to all the rigmarole of finding out if the prescriber is genuine (a bit difficult if you don't speak the lingo) and that the script fulfils legal requirements.
                    HOWEVER as it's treated as a private script you are under no legal obligation to dispense it if you feel that the details of the script are unverifiable/unworkable.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

                      How are you supposed to find out if a prescriber is genuine ? On top of that drugs licensed in different European countries may be under different generic/brand name. This all seems a bit stupid - what are the chances of actually completing such a prescription successfully ?
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                        Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

                        Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                        How are you supposed to find out if a prescriber is genuine ? On top of that drugs licensed in different European countries may be under different generic/brand name. This all seems a bit stupid - what are the chances of actually completing such a prescription successfully ?
                        Almost all UK generic names (BANNs) are identical to the Internationally approved generic names (INNs) (see the list on the WHO website or in a Martindale) so s long as it is prescribed generically any pharmacist anywhere in the world should be able to dispense the correct product. IIRC the Europeam Medicines Authority was puts pressure on companies to use the same brand name across the EU unless they want to file separate liscence applications in every country.

                        I personally feel that being able to decipher and understand prescriptions is the core of what a pharmacist does, if pharmacists can't do that why should they offer "enhanced" services.

                        How do you knnow if a prescription is genuine or not anyway? Especially locums who do not know the prescribers in the area. I think in the UK pharmacists are spoilt: most prescriptions nicely printed on standard forms. If a patient comes down from another part of the country into your 24 hour pharmacy at 3 pm and needs for example viagra, how are you going to tell if it is a genuine prescription? On the other hand an elderly holiday maker comes in for a refill of her thiazide and calcium channel blocker, perhaps on a repeat prescription like they have in places where you pay to see a doctor.
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                        • #13
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                          The other thing is dosing - do all european countries use latin abbreviations like tds or tid, qqh, prn ? You can't exactly call the prescriber up...
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                          • #14
                            Re: Dispensing plan for European prescriptions

                            Read pj and a very good article in relation to EU scripts.

                            It related to the fact of how difficult it could be to communicate through say a Austrian receptionist. Secondly, what about if the drug is same but it's a different active ingredient and how can you possibly communicate to patients?
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                            • #15
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                              Google 100 hour pharmacies, and find out!
                              a time will come when you have to rely on yourself! show some effort at least.....
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