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    I'm writing from Poland. I've already posted the following message to uk.sci.med.pharmacy some time ago. Since I expect that not all of you have had an opportunity to read it, I put it here below and wait impatiently for a bulk of anwers

    Does anyone of you work with a parmacist from Poland? What is your
    opinion about such an individual - his professional skills, command of English etc. What is a common "rumour" about Polish pharmacists working in the UK? Are most of them young or rather experienced? Could you explain to me, why do the chain pharmacies seek
    employees in such countries like Poland? Perhaps the reason lays in the fact they are offered lower salaries? Is there a shortage of native professionals? Do you find your position in the local job market endangered due to the influx of Polish pharmacists? Actually, I should first ask if you observe such influx?

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    Polish Pharmacists

    Lukares

    I have worked with a Polish pharmacist called Conrad. He came to the Yorkshire area, worked at a shop with another pharmacist for a while, and now manages his own shop (for Lloyds).

    Personally I found him easy to work with, pleasant personality and his English was good. His pharmacy knowledge seemed good too. He was under 30 years old, so was quite young.

    I think the main reason companies go to places like Poland to recruit is the lack of pharmacists here. I don't think he was being paid any less then anybody else. If you are offered a job and you are worrying you might be paid less then other pharmacists, post a message and I'm sure you'll get other answers. They also recruit in Spain, Finland - all over the world!

    I have personally never felt threatened by pharmacists from other countries. It seems to me there are still plenty of jobs here for us all.
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    • #3
      Pharmacists From Poland

      Lukares

      I have worked with one guy from Poland. He was in his twenties, so was young, but his knowledge, English and personality were all good. He worked a lot better and harder then some pharmacists from the UK!

      He did tell me he earns in the UK x 6 what he earned in Poland. I didn't ask him how much exactly, but he seemed happy. I think he was sending money home to his wife, and she was going to come over once he settled down as she was in her last year of pharmacy study.

      I have made friends with people from Africa, Finland, Poland, Spain and other places. I like to think if you are a friendly out-going person, the pharmacy world will make time for you, and you won't feel alone if you come to work here.

      If you want a job in the UK I can help you up - either long term, or locum work, just ask.

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      • #4
        Re: Pharmacists From Poland

        Originally posted by Apothecary
        Lukares
        If you want a job in the UK I can help you up - either long term, or locum work, just ask.
        Oh please, please say that at the end of 2007, when I will have completed my pharmacy course!
        It needs to be stated though that I am still a student. Currently, I am going through 4th year out of 5.5 (of which last 0.5 is devoted for practice in a retail pharmacy).
        Hope my plans of working in the UK as a pharmacist will come true! (with your kind help if you wish).

        Regards,
        Luke

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        • #5
          Working in the UK

          Lukares

          I know companies who are recruiting from all over the world. I don't see it being a problem helping you get work.

          Keep in touch via this site, and let me know when you are fully qualified.

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          • #6
            Polish Pharmacists

            Polish pharmacists are coming over quite regularly now and from what I have heard and my experience of them they are very highly rated.

            There is a company called A-Team recruitment which specialise in bringing Polish Pharmacists over to the UK and giving them the support they need. The Polish pharmacists I know came over here through them and they are very helpful.
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            • #7
              Luke, I too can confirm the other posts: there is a shortage of Pharmacists in the UK, so companies are looking to other EU countries to recruit, especially now that Pharmacists from Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are no longer automatically deemed to be qualified to work here. To give you an example: the company I work for has almost 1500 pharmacies across the UK, and its website lists vacancies for 159 pharmacist's positions... I understand that vacancy levels in hospital Pharmacy are even greater.
              I know a couple of Polish Phcicts who have moved here a year ago after being recruited in poland by a large company, and they are very nice and settling in quite well.
              Most of the foreign pharmacists I have met are young and relatively inexperienced, but I suppose that's only normal, experience comes with time, and presumably the more "mature" pharmacists are less likely to uproot themseves from their home country to go and live & work abroad, especially when it involves moving a whole family.
              The salaries offered are not significantly lower than those offered to a newly-registered UK pharmacist, and after 2-3 years' experience they are the same. It is quite understandable that the large companies seek to recoup their initial investment in recruitment.
              I personally think that polish pharmacists are highly qualified, and their command of english is more than adequate, usually;And I don't feel that my position is endangered by the influx of foreign Phcists yet, although things may change in 10 years' time...
              Ze genuine Article, present & perfect!

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              • #8
                Hi,
                thanks for this forum, that's what I was looking for.
                I'm a Polish pharmacist going to work in the UK in the near future and I want to ask you for some advice. I have to choose between Lloyds and Boots (almost every detail of my contract is the same in both companies). Which one is better? Are there any differences between them at all?
                Thank you for your answers.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iza
                  Hi,
                  thanks for this forum, that's what I was looking for.
                  I'm a Polish pharmacist going to work in the UK in the near future and I want to ask you for some advice. I have to choose between Lloyds and Boots (almost every detail of my contract is the same in both companies). Which one is better? Are there any differences between them at all?
                  Thank you for your answers.
                  Iza

                  I have worked for both companies, and other people on this forum work for one of the two. Others have worked for either one in the past.

                  If you want my personal opinion on the pros and cons of each company then just send me an e-mail or private message.

                  Can I just let you know that your welcome e-mail was rejected because your server said: -

                  Nie przyjmiemy tej wiadomosci poniewaz jest to spam - zobacz strone:

                  We can't accept this message because it is spam.

                  It's not spam, just a welcome to the forum letter. The first one is sent automatically, and I personally send a 2nd one with more details on it. The 2nd one seems to have been sent ok, but not the first one. The 2nd contains more, so if you have received it you haven't missed anything in the first one. Please let me know if you have not got any messages.

                  Welcome!
                  Last edited by admin; 5, July 2006, 11:05 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Welcome Iza!
                    I haven't worked for both these companies, only for one of them (I'm sure you can guess which one by looking at my previous posts...).
                    What about location? are you considering working in a large city or town, or in the countryside? in what part of the country? I think this makes a bigger difference in one's quality of life than which company you choose to work for...
                    The most important factor for me would be the people I'd be working with, i.e. is it a big store, with more than 15 staff for example, or is it a small village pharmacy with only 3-4 staff who know all their customers and are a great team and enjoy working together?
                    Ze genuine Article, present & perfect!

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for your reply. Well, it seems that, like everywhere everything depends on with whom you work, not necessary for which company.
                      I just didn't get used to big pharmacies, not mentioning that our Polish pharmacies are working completely different and very often the pharmacist is the only person in the store.
                      My destination are the vicinities of Coventry.
                      I also wanted to say that I wrote an e-mail to Admin, but with no reply

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iza
                        Thanks for your reply. Well, it seems that, like everywhere everything depends on with whom you work, not necessary for which company.
                        I just didn't get used to big pharmacies, not mentioning that our Polish pharmacies are working completely different and very often the pharmacist is the only person in the store.
                        My destination are the vicinities of Coventry.
                        I also wanted to say that I wrote an e-mail to Admin, but with no reply
                        Iza

                        Sorry - I must have missed it. I've been really busy lately. I have now replied to it.
                        Last edited by admin; 10, July 2006, 09:37 PM.
                        Lively debate is encouraged but please respect the opinions and feelings of others.
                        Please help keep the forum vibrant by spreading the work to friends and colleagues via word of mouth or social media.
                        Thank you for contributing to this site.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by iza
                          I just didn't get used to big pharmacies, not mentioning that our Polish pharmacies are working completely different and very often the pharmacist is the only person in the store.
                          It sounds very similar to what I was used to in Belgium, too: many more pharmacies, but usually one-man-bands (or to be scientifically more accurate, one-woman-bands!). Don't worry, you'll quickly get used to it; it has advantages (camaraderie, social interaction with colleagues) and inconveniences( arguments with colleagues, back-stabbing, logistical/organisational issues...).
                          Ze genuine Article, present & perfect!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zoggite
                            inconveniences( arguments with colleagues, back-stabbing, logistical/organisational issues...).

                            I've always disliked the fact that pharmacies are dominated by women.

                            If two blokes fall out you can tell them to go outside and they's beat the crap out of each other. That evening they'd be buying each other beers complaining about what a sod I am.

                            With women however, if something kicks off all you get is "and seven years ago you used my mug!" "Well you went to lunch early on my shift no less than three times in the past five years!"
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                            • #15
                              Oi Tubs! Just you wait 'til Admin sees your reply, she'll soon tell you what for- she's taking lessons from Zidane!
                              Ze genuine Article, present & perfect!

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