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    According to the C&D, Pfizer plans to send independent auditors to pharmacies that have made “highly irregular or unusual” orders for its medicines.

    Here is the article...

    Pfizer in audit plan to block 'irregular' orders - Chemist + Druggist

    What does anyone think of this??

    Bobbin

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    Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

    I think that if you set yourself up as a supplier of medicines, you should have to KEEP supplying them to all people licensed/registered to use them. I'm assuming the upshot of non-cooperation would be refusal to supply...
    Employed again... paid holidays! Yipee

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    • #3
      Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

      Originally posted by Defblade View Post
      I think that if you set yourself up as a supplier of medicines, you should have to KEEP supplying them to all people licensed/registered to use them. I'm assuming the upshot of non-cooperation would be refusal to supply...
      I assume Pfizer would start to block orders.

      I find the following statements interesting and somewhat bizarre........

      PSNC said it was “not sure” whether Pfizer could claim rights to individual pharmacy records. The contract negotiator said it was concerned that patient confidentiality could be jeopardised under Pfizer’s scheme.

      .........But Pfizer stressed that auditors will not see any patient details that may breach patient confidentiality.

      How could it be legal for Pfizer's auditors to demand access to a pharmacy's confidential computer records?

      Bobbin

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      • #4
        Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

        You would think that with them closing down factories and all that, that they would be grateful for all the sales they could get!

        I'm surprised they don't sponsor their own "viagra clinics"--maybe it's illegal !

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          Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

          Please close this thread before we get accused of using up our allocation of words to talk about it.
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          • #6
            Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

            Don't follow..what do you mean by that?
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            • #7
              Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

              Originally posted by Fleegle
              Originally posted by Pharmanaut
              Please close this thread before we get accused of using up our allocation of words to talk about it
              Don't follow..what do you mean by that?

              Wholesalers are only allocated a certain amount of stock from the likes of Pfizer etc. That allocation is passed on to the pharmacy. For instance we were allocated 130 packs of Plavix a month but were using upto 160? A pharmacy that was using only 30 per month had same allocation? A quick phone call to the rep however sorted it out.

              We also had a call from the manufacturer of Detrusitol XL 4mg caps saying we were ordering too many and what were we doing with them? I told them i was only ordering enough to fulfill all the rx's we received.

              Thats my allocation used up....I will await my Pfizer investigation with some anticipation!

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              • #8
                Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

                Originally posted by bobbin View Post
                How could it be legal for Pfizer's auditors to demand access to a pharmacy's confidential computer records?

                Bobbin
                A lot of pharmacies sign up to schemes which routinely - usually daily - send a summary of drugs, amounts and prescriptions sorted by GP to an agency, which pays for this information. This is integrated with the pharmacy computer software.

                patient identifying data is not collected.

                Therefore by getting the data from this agency, Pfizer would have a fairly accurate idea of just what the prescription usage is at that pharmacy.

                Of course, they would have to pay for this, and I suspect that it was partly to avoid having to pay for this info that the direct-to-pharmacy schemes were set up in the first place. The disadvantage, as Pfizer are now discovering, is that it doesn't actually give them all the data they need! -- its only half the story. Drugs in should equal drugs out, but the suspicion is obviously that they suspect some kind of parallel exporting or supply operation is going on.

                The simplest would be for a small group to have one shop with a unichem a/c and centrally buy pfizer stuff and redistribute it, for the savings that would accrue through not having to have two wholesaler accounts everywhere.

                So, in most independant retail establishments, Pfizer wouldn't actually have to contact the shop at all!
                ....just my opinion

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                • #9
                  Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

                  Hi David

                  Thanks for your reply.

                  What sort of agencies do pharmacies supply information to and why?

                  Bobbin

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                  • #10
                    Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

                    IMS Data --Intercontinental Medical Statistics. They supply cos with information re any product by area post code. When I was a rep, each month I got the figures which showed how I compared to average for that product for rest of co. Also one or two direct competitors for comparison.

                    My aim was always to be above co average and for every sales 'brick' to show progress in sales of that item.
                    johnep

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                    • #11
                      Re: Pfizer plans to investigate pharmacies

                      Interesting, thank you.

                      Bobbin

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