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    Today received script for 10 items from glutafin range. Given that local supermarkets stock an extensive range, should the NHS be funding food costs?

    We do give out large quantities of baby milk and also ensure etc to addicts.

    Should weight watchers be available on NHS.? should Diabetic chocolate and Jam be available on the NHS?

    johnep

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    all these luxury goods should be blacklisted! they should not be allowed on NHS prescription.
    replace them with Condoms, and push in prescribing implanon(rather than OC) is the answer IMHO
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    • #3
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      I too agree, it's items like the ones you mentioned which get us such a poor name. The NHS should stop funding them.
      3rd yr pharmacy student - bath

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      • #4
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        i think if you have a genuine medical condition which forces you to be 100% gluten free or babies who cannot have lactose formula milk then you should get these products on the NHS or be able to get some sort of disability allowance to buy these vastly more expensive products. This isn't the person's fault and they shouldn't have to carry such a massive expense because of a medical condition.

        However, if you're a fatty and want free weightwatchers stuff, tough. (speaking as a fatty myself)

        Fair enough for the use of drugs like xenical etc to aid a calorie controlled diet, but giving out diet foods too? Not a bloody chance! You ate the pies, you sort it out.
        “It's not worth doing something unless you were doing something that someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren't doing.”

        Terry Pratchett

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        • #5
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          Bread, I sort of agree with, staple of the diet and all that, but 3 different types of pasta/cake mix/rolls/breadsticks/etc etc, no, not on the NHS.

          Giving out formula of any sort saddens me when in most cases the child would be far better off breastfed.

          Diabetic foods just encourage diabetics to carry on with the crap diets that made them diabetic in the first place, so no, not on the NHS.
          Same with Weightwatchers actually, how many people do a course of WW, lose the weight and never put it back on? Not so many.

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          • #6
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            I agree totally. It annoys me SOOOOOO much when people are getting sweet biscuits and chocolate chip cookies etc on the NHS. They are not a staple in the diet, in fact they are unhealthy! I just did a script the other day for 20 boxes of them, absolutely ridiculous. If people want biscuits they should buy their own, it's not like there are none available to buy in supermarkets now and they are a lot cheaper there than the cost price of glutafin et al.

            There are so many more important things that the money could be spent on!

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            • #7
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              When there is so much hunger in the World should we really be allowing gluten intollerants to have cakes and biscuits? No, bread and pasta maybe. We have a patient who's young daughter is gluten intollerant but we have an idea that he is feeding his family on her "special diet" too having commented that the rice cookies were nice.
              Diabetics are another kettle of fish. Speaking from experience (hubby is diabetic) there is no proof that diabetic chocolate, or any other special diabetic food, is any good for them anyway.
              Cakes and biscuits are a luxury and should be blacklisted.
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              • #8
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                Why should it have to go out free on the NHS? I know that it is expensive for people, but surely there could be a way to part-fund them through tax credits, government vouchers or something?

                It's not that we want to take something away from people--just that it is a way the public can manipulate the system into blatant profiteering--Frequently I have dispensed "28 days worth"--consisting of 12 of this 12 of that, let me put down the backseat of the hatchback! Feeds a whole family I reckon, or gets sold on ebay!

                But then we can't afford to lose our dispensing fees either.


                If viagra is limited to 4 a month (in theory), why not cap the bread,rolls and cornflakes too..

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                • #9
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                  Ah but you do not understand the psychology of the underclass. They regard luxuries as essentials and essentials as luxuries.

                  Ie 'special brew' and cigarettes are essentials as are plasma screen TVs, mobile phones and cars. Burgers, pizzas, fish fingers etc are food and thats OK, but staples such as milk bread etc should be provided by the state.

                  When overseas my criteria for charity was the child with no shoes, an importunate youth with the latest trainers, mobile and wrist watch got nothing from me.
                  johnep

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by johnep View Post
                    Ah but you do not understand the psychology of the underclass. They regard luxuries as essentials and essentials as luxuries.

                    Ie 'special brew' and cigarettes are essentials as are plasma screen TVs, mobile phones and cars. Burgers, pizzas, fish fingers etc are food and thats OK, but staples such as milk bread etc should be provided by the state.

                    When overseas my criteria for charity was the child with no shoes, an importunate youth with the latest trainers, mobile and wrist watch got nothing from me.
                    johnep

                    Ah but that's no sign of priorities. I have a relative who is a "professional beggar". He has been known to spend weeks without shoes in absolutely torn clothes raising money but he still just usually spend it on alcohol and cigarettes, ok also the rent and mobile phone etc. Apparently it is a very lucrative business if you do it right and you can still have all the latest stuff at home and while not at work. It's even better if you have a family, as you can take the kids along too and teach them a useful skill.

                    I would much rather contribute to a soup kitchen as at least then I know that the money is being spent on food or a street musician who has entertained me.

                    Back to the original topic, I still think too much is available on the NHS for free, things like foods should be offered at the same price as normal food, for example a loaf of gluten free bread should be charged at the cost of a standard loaf of supermarket bread, special chocolates etc at the same price as normal chocolates. Until this happens people will naturally take advantage of the situation. I guess this won't happen as it would be a nightmare to administrate and the politicians will be too scared.
                    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
                    (T. Pratchett)

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                    • #11
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                      One of my bosses was an old India hand. He told me of the begger who sat outside the bazaar all day and then walked through the bazaar to a back street where his chauffeur picked him up.

                      I was saddened in Nairobi where we saw a lorry depositing beggers along the streets near to the hotels armed with a cheap bottle of wine for company.

                      Will be in Cambridge tomorrow and will see several begging in the street. One told me he asks for a pound and usually gets it. He can ask 20-30 people an hour with very high success rate.
                      johnep

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                      • #12
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                        I can see no possible justification for NHS-funded cakes and biscuits. Only staple gluten-free foods should be allowed on FP10.

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                        • #13
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                          Does anyone know, can coeliacs drink beer whiskey or guinness? I wasn't sure if there was gluten in the hops, rye, malt or whatever.

                          Anyone know?

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                          • #14
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                            Whisky's ok, but beer or stout? absolutely not. I do a weekly locum in a shop where the "coeliac" mother feeds the whole family, free of charge, on GF cornflakes, pizza bases, various breads, porridge, part-baked rolls, tagliatelli, macaroni, and rice-krispies et al. Oh and curiously, the children..and I'm talking about NINE of them.. were all Lactose-intolerant within 2 weeks of birth, hence free Soya milk. This sort of blatant abuse of the system has to stop!!
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                            • #15
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                              Beer contains proteins (liquid bread). Over a period of time these tend to oxidise and polymers form. On opening the beer, these altered proteins form nuclei for bubbles and the beer 'gushes'. A stale taste also develops. I used to sell Vit C as an antioxidant to help tourist areas keep the last brew of a season fresh through the off season.
                              johnep

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