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    Hi all




    i thought I would share my experience of moving from community to hospital. I read a lot of the posts and found everyone’s advice very useful and so want to share my experience to help others.




    I recently secured a Band 6 post in hospital after 8 years in community. I attended two interviews and the questions were as follows:




    Interview 1




    1)Greatest achievement outside of pharmacy




    2)understanding of Carter review




    3)Recent innovation in pharmacy




    4)Cystic fibrosis Rx how would you deal with that




    5)What reference sources do you use to look up medicines information?




    6)Challenging situation and how you dealt with that




    7)Prioritisation task




    Interview 2

    1. Give two examples of Clinical interventions you have made - They also asked further questions on the answers I gave

    1. Why do you want to transfer to hospital and what learning gaps have you identified. How will you fill these gaps?

    1. Example of a Difficult situation

    1. Drug chart review

    1. Tell us what you know about these drugs - phenytoin digoxin and Aminophylline NTI Drugs




    The first interview I did not get the job and the feedback I got was that I was too nervous and what they were looking for was not necessarily complete clinical knowledge but rather enthusiasm to learn and an personality that would fit in with the existing team.




    The second interview I did not let my nerves overcome me and was able to be relaxed throughout the interview and show my enthusiasm to move into hospital.




    I hope this helps and would be happy to help anyone with further questions




    I would be grateful if anyone could give me any advice on any prep I can do before I start my new band 6 hospital job ? Any general drugs I need to know about etc?
















  • #2
    Congratulations and thanks for the feedback!!!
    I remember when a blog was an individual boot.

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    • #3
      Thanks - I’m looking forward to starting in hospital.

      I would be grateful if anyone could give me any advice on any prep I can do before I start my new band 6 hospital job ? Any general drugs I need to know about etc?

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      • #4
        When you start your new job you will probably be shadowing another pharmacist for a while so you will have time to learn the appropriate drugs/doses etc for that area. The main difference from community is the use of intravenous drugs and so I would particularly study the use of intravenous antibiotics and the common regimes for them. So for example an intravenous antibiotic might be given for three days and then changed onto an oral form. You would need to know the hospital sops for that sort of issue.

        the other thing that you will do is your dispensing and checking logs. I know that you’ve passed all your exams and you’ve done it all before but my advice is to forget everything that you have learned already and follow the hospital way. Just as no two community pharmacies have the same way of doing things, neither do hospitals. It’s much more pleasant for everyone concerned if you don’t start by saying, but we do it that way somewhere else. No one cares how you do it elsewhere, you just need to follow the in house rules! Keep in mind this advice stands if you move to another hospital too. There’s no point in butting your head up against a brick wall, it just antagonises everyone and makes life miserable.

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        • #5
          That’s brilliant advice, thanks for that. Yep, I can imagine the standard operating procedures and protocols are completely different from community pharmacy so I will definitely be striving to pick it all up quickly.
          I am considering getting “the top 100 drugs” book, detailing all the relevant information for the top 100 NHS drugs, e.g dose adjustments in renal impairment, IV doses etc. Would you recommend it?

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          • #6
            It's good of you to post your experience of the interview. Very useful. I've been toying with the idea of a move from community to hospital pharmacy since qualification in 2014. I've been on the band 6 pharmacist waiting list in Northern Ireland for the past year and have had several offers of hospital jobs throughout the year - I haven't accepted any yet.
            My issue is that I don't HATE community pharmacy but at the same time it doesn't really excite me either. I have maintained my clinical knowledge to a good standard since qualification and believe I would be able to transition to a hospital job relatively easily.
            My problem is the pay gap and my question to you is, how did you overcome this?
            Every time I get an offer of a hospital job I consider it but I ask myself can I really justify taking a ~12k pay cut to move in to another sector. I probably would enjoy the greater utilisation of pharmacist knowledge and skills in the hospital and I am very open to further development regarding diplomas etc. but then I ask myself, why bother? To be paid less? I understand the band 6 pay scale starts at ~£26k and band 7 ranges from ~£31k to ~£41k. So I am being paid the upper end of NHS band 7 in my current role which I do quite enjoy - although since I'm not really interested in management, my salary will probably remain in this range for years to come!
            I don't believe money is everything and so I see why this decision may be a lot easier for those who are already disgruntled with community pharmacy for example. Is the OP (or anyone else who has transferred or is thinking about it) as passive as I am when it comes to analysis of this situation?
            If I take a job in hospital, will I be sitting here in 5 years time thinking - I'm now only back up to the same salary I had in community pharmacy 5 years ago. Any jobs above band 7 are non-existent/ extremely competitive, what was the point etc? Will I be sitting here in 5 years time having not taken any action, still being paid the same salary but now be bored of/ disillusioned with community pharmacy and want out anyway? Did the OP struggle with these salary issues and passiveness between the job roles?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HAPPY-GUY View Post
              If I take a job in hospital, will I be sitting here in 5 years time thinking - I'm now only back up to the same salary I had in community pharmacy 5 years ago. Any jobs above band 7 are non-existent/ extremely competitive, what was the point etc? Will I be sitting here in 5 years time having not taken any action, still being paid the same salary but now be bored of/ disillusioned with community pharmacy and want out anyway? Did the OP struggle with these salary issues and passiveness between the job roles?
              Take into consideration holidays, breaks and working hours and the gap very quickly narrows. Bear in mind that you'd be working to a 37.5 hour a week contract and that would be the exact expectation of what you would work. Holiday accrual is an awful lot faster as well and there's pretty much guaranteed pay rises going forwards.

              If you're not interested in management then community may be a dead end for you. I'd seriously consider the switch to hospital if you feel you have the skills.
              I remember when a blog was an individual boot.

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              • #8
                When I moved from retail into industry, I took a 30% pay cut. Made it up with Saturday locums and expense accout, plus all mileage paid handsomely. EG I ran a mini at 50 mpg and received 6p per mile. In those days petrol was 20p per gallon. Then, after being made redundant from industry moved back to retail and took again a 30% pay cut. Finally, back in industry again with a 20% pay cut. However, with all the previous advantages.
                You have to take the long term view and job satisfaction. Because of my changing jobs, my pension was very poor. So, did locums until I was 76..
                johnep

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                • #9
                  You might not be thinking about it now but pension provision in hospital is usually much better than in community. Also other benefits like paid sick leave are worth taking into consideration.

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                  • #10
                    Yes there is definitely a significant pay cut that comes with the transition to hospital pharmacy but, as mentioned by Nimrec, you must take into consideration the difference in hours, substantial increase in much needed rest breaks, paid sick leave etc. But even leaving these things aside, my main motivator to move sectors was job satisfaction. I need to re-connect with all the clinical aspects of pharmacy that I do feel is declining rapidly in retail. While it is possible to apply clinical knowledge in community via services such as MURs and the NMS scheme, it is becoming increasingly difficult due to the sheer pressure and lack of staffing. I feel there is also a much wider scope for progression up the bands and becoming a more specialist pharmacist in the NHS, where good work ethic enables swift progression.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Happy guy! I've recently taken the decision of going for hospital pharmacy, after 9 years in community. Like you, it's taken me a lot of thinking becase not only I don't hate community, I really enjoy it. I'm quite lucky to work in a fairly quiet branch which gives me enough time to focus on the patients. But basically, if I don't go for it now, certainly I won't do it in 10 years time when I have maybe more responsibilities, or less will to start something completely new. PLUS, I think community it's always going to be there. If things don't work out for me in hospital I have confidence that I will find something back in community, maybe not the perfect job at first but as long as I keep looking out there will be an opportunity (or at least I hope so hahah)

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                      • #12
                        Well done making the transition from community to hospital.
                        Me... I've had enough of the Black Horse company cutting corners and finding loop holes. I have a new job with NHS - and it's not in pharmacy.
                        It's a sad good bye after 26 years in community.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the replies, you all make valid points. I suppose the fact that I am continually considering my options probably highlights that I'm not really contented in community pharmacy, even though I do enjoy it to an extent. When I take a long term view, I already think I probably won't be satisfied with remaining in my current role. I agree that the longer I wait, there is less likelihood of me making the move. I'm thinking that, given the right opportunity, I will try out hospital pharmacy.
                          stevesdonna1....Just out of curiosity, what sort of job did you move in to?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stevesdonna1 View Post
                            . I have a new job with NHS - and it's not in pharmacy.
                            Some info would be helpful - for those looking at alternatives to community pharmacy.
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                            • #15
                              I've had enough of the Black Horse company cutting corners and finding loop holes. I have a new job with NHS - and it's not in pharmacy.

                              please give more details, we all would like to know more.
                              thanks


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