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    As the Easter bank Holiday tiptoes ever closer, it hasn't escaped my bosses in Sapphire court that we get an awful lot of requests for emergency supplies on Good Friday (I'm sure I've mentioned this in previous posts...); so they've now "informed" me that I am to treat every ES request as an intervention that justifies an MUR, even if I've never seen the patient before or ever dispensed anything for them or from their surgery before...
    So I thought that maybe this year I'd give Good Friday a miss; Apparently, they can get locums for bank hols & sundays for £26/hour, whereas I expect to be paid double-rate...
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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoggite View Post
    As the Easter bank Holiday tiptoes ever closer, it hasn't escaped my bosses in Sapphire court that we get an awful lot of requests for emergency supplies on Good Friday (I'm sure I've mentioned this in previous posts...); so they've now "informed" me that I am to treat every ES request as an intervention that justifies an MUR, even if I've never seen the patient before or ever dispensed anything for them or from their surgery before...
    So I thought that maybe this year I'd give Good Friday a miss; Apparently, they can get locums for bank hols & sundays for £26/hour, whereas I expect to be paid double-rate...
    How can an emergency supply be a MUR? I'm sure the society would class this as a core service.

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    How can an emergency supply be a MUR? I'm sure the society would class this as a core service.
    Patients inability to manage their medicines - else they wouldn't need an emergency supply.

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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    What about the 3 month registration at the pharmacy rule?

    Plus if it's anything like the pharmacies I work at then you'll get loads of ES requests. A normal ES can take long enough how long will it take to turn that into an MUR?
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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    Time can be saved in an ES by getting the pt to complete a form with the details which you can then treat as a script. i have a couple of examples, one as a word document, the more sophisticated as a PDF.
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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Linnear View Post
    What about the 3 month registration at the pharmacy rule?
    My understanding is that the 3-month registration requirement doesn't apply if the MUR is intervention-based, rather than an "annual" review (but correct me if I'm wrong!);
    Quote Originally Posted by Linnear View Post
    Plus if it's anything like the pharmacies I work at then you'll get loads of ES requests. A normal ES can take long enough how long will it take to turn that into an MUR?
    I totally agree, it's the same here in North Wales at bank holidays- see my previous posts about ES: Good friday 2005 was my "personal Best": 78 requests in one day of 8.5 working hours, that's 510 minutes divided by 78, or 6 minutes and 30 seconds per "transaction"!!!!
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    I think I've stumbled across the answer about the "3-month registration period" requirement for intervention-based MURs:
    Welcome to PSNC- Speaking for Community Pharmacy, see the last FAQ:

    "Can you perform a prescription intervention type MUR for a patient who has not received their prescribed medication from your pharmacy for the last three months?
    Yes you can, as the three month rule does not apply to prescription interventions. N.B. this is not currently the case in Wales."


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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

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    Patients inability to manage their medicines - else they wouldn't need an emergency supply.

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    So are you saying that this is a legit Intervention then?

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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    Tabletcounter from a couple of responses you've posted I think you may be a little confused about interventions and MURs.


    You can do an intervention which leads into an MUR and get paid for both but an intervention is a process that is completely separate to MURs.

    You do an intervention because you see a problem an MUR doesn't have to follow.
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    Re: Emergency supplies as Intervention MURs?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Linnear View Post
    You can do an intervention which leads into an MUR and get paid for both but an intervention is a process that is completely separate to MURs.

    You do an intervention because you see a problem an MUR doesn't have to follow.
    You've got me confused now: How do you go about getting paid for both an MUR and an intervention?
    I thought that prescription interventions were classed as an "essential service" in the new contract,thus not worthy of any additional payment, whereas an intervention-triggered MUR is just that, an MUR : " There is only one service; it is what prompts the review that is the differentiating factor.", says the PSNC website quoted in my previous post...
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