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    NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    Hi, i have no idea if I have posted this in the correct place but hay ho! I am currently trying to finish my NVQ 3 and have been asked to do a stimulation on how to make up menthol 1% and Aqueous 100g. I have no idea where to even start for all the years I've been working in community pharmacy I've never made up anything like this!
    Any help would be so appreciated.

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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    The process is trituration and levigation. The menthol is reduced from crystals in a mortar with a very small quantity of cream.
    More cream is added gradually and when no crystals or 'grittiness' to the touch. Turn out on a slab and incorporate equal quantity of cream. Keep repeating this addition until all done. A spatula is used with pressure, flat side down to ensure mixing and reduction of any remaining particles. Demonstration of shear forces.

    The cheats method is to dissolve the menthol in a small quantity of IMS and simply stir in.
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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    Thank you so much! I could not of asked for a more perfect answer! Can I be cheeky and bug you for some more info?! I also need to state the correct formula, does this mean there is 1% of menthol to each 100g of aqueous I only require 100g therefore that is my formula? Also I need to show that my calculations and quantities meets the formula's requirements! Any help would be much appreciated, many thanks Leeann

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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    Nope, it is 1G menthol and 99G aqueous cream. If you added 100g aqueous cream then it would end up less than 1% menthol (1g in 101g, rather than 1g in 100g).

    And you should use a glass mortar, "composition" (white) mortars will adsorb appreciable amounts of the menthol and everything you use it for, for months afterwards, will come out mentholated!
    ....just my opinion

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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    hi leeann is this for 1st year or 2nd year? if for 2nd year evidence in the 1st year u should have done an activity report on u can use that as evidence just attach an activity report to the case study and say this is the case stusy i did in year 1 etc, if for 1st year i would ask ur tutor to show u exactly how its done and write a detailed report for case study and then u can use it in 2nd yr

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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    Correct David, we used to have scripts calling for menthol,camphor and thymol. Used a small glass mortar for these.
    1g + 99g is correct. However, I failed a dispensing exam because I failed to allow for wastage and was unable to send quantity required. Should really make a surplus. My brain is tired this morning, someone calculate weight of menthol plus 100 gram cream to give 1%. Suspect it is 1.01g
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    Re: NVQ 3 unit 1 ,really stuck!

    Thank you all so much for your quick responses! Im already to re-submit my work now this has been bugging me for some time I wished I had found this site sooner!

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