Pharmacy technician NVQ3- every Pharmacy should have one?

[kemzero]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Could I suggest that this is what the company we work for would like to be the case as a legal alternative to employing a pharmacist?
Three years being the amount of time that they estimate for the lobbying to take effect - just throw in ETP and a little remote supervision prn and they're on to a winner.

Jeff

Hi Jeff

Are you loooking forward to this?
Do you feel thats the way forward

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Could I suggest that this is what the company we work for would like to be the case as a legal alternative to employing a pharmacist?
Three years being the amount of time that they estimate for the lobbying to take effect - just throw in ETP and a little remote supervision prn and they're on to a winner.

Jeff

Exactly what I and my friends have been hearing for some time now. It's not the question of "if?" but "when?". And it looks to me like soon or later we are going to be out

[Zoggite]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Exactly what I and my friends have been hearing for some time now. It's not the question of "if?" but "when?". And it looks to me like soon or later we are going to be out

So stop procrastinating and get your views on the Responsible Pharmacist Consultation through!

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Exactly what I and my friends have been hearing for some time now. It's not the question of "if?" but "when?". And it looks to me like soon or later we are going to be out

Or freed from the dispensary bench and thus able to use our cognitive and clinical skills more appropriately.

See then quote from Tony Schofield that I put on Linnears responsible pharmacist thread on this site.

Jeff

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Or freed from the dispensary bench and thus able to use our cognitive and clinical skills more appropriately.

Well, it's not the problem of a change in itself. It's more that it's going to be used by multiple in exactly the same way as MURs - they'll simply stretch and abuse it as far as it can possibly go. This is a real threat, not the change itself.

Why pharmacist are paid so much (or so little, depending on where you are)? One of the reason being not enough of them are out there. This gap has been partly filled by getting them here from countries like Poland.

You would have to be there and see how some multiples abuse this - they go so far as to employ some of them who should have finish a proper language course (if only focused on the pharmaceutical side of the language). But what about giving them only a month or two to get to know how pharmacy and pharmacist works in UK - it's a totally different role than in other countries like Poland (not to mention almost whole new world when it comes to medicines used and what they are use for). Multiples employe them and simply let them fight for the survival - all they care is to have a pharmacist in the shop and tick one of the boxes of legal obligations they have. They do not care about anythig else, including proper patient care that could have place if there was a properly trained pharmacist.

Guess what? Such multimples would love the idea of not having to go and look for Polish pharmacist but simply employ a technician (and for less money). They will not care about safety, proper patient care and poor Responsible Pharmacist who will have to deal with all that.

What I'm saying is just the fact that multiples are abusing everything they can (MURs, a chance to employ polish pharmacist who isn't really preapared to be a pharmacist in UK) and I cannot see why they wouldn't do it with technicians and responsible pharmacist.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Well, it's not the problem of a change in itself. It's more that it's going to be used by multiple in exactly the same way as MURs - they'll simply stretch and abuse it as far as it can possibly go. This is a real threat, not the change itself.

The change is coming, the consultation document is about how the change is likely to be introduced. If pharmacists don't respond and attempt to influence the change who will?

Yes there are dangers - but doing a King Canute and telling the tide not to come in is a pointless exercise. What we can, and must, do is influence that change to the advantage of both patients and pharmacists.

Jeff

[RegPharmTech]

I remember the same rumour being spread way back when registration of technicians was first being discussed. I thought it was just one of those things being said to try and coerce reluctant dispensers to train.