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  1. 4th, March 2011, 12:07 PM #1
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    BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    I'm pleased to see that there has been a plain English update to the BNF Cautions and that the project has involved testing the wording with patients.

    I can't help wondering if the test included generating actual labels for actual medicines?
    Many of the new phrases are much longer; get a medicine that requires two or three of these phrases and you end up with continuation labels.

    This creates a further problem of attaching the labels to the container in order not to obscure other critical information.

    Further problem with small items such as eye drops etc.
    Flagging the container is not the answer, as it makes them unstable - if they fall over without the top on they can spill or contaminate the dropper spout microbiologically or with a foreign body that could end up in the eye or ear.
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Was it you Pharmanaut who made a thread on BNF labels and ideas for new ones ? Had a look at the new ones on the online BNF and in an attempt to try and simplify them, they have made them quite long and wordy. Seems like some of the aspirin ones have been removed as well.
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    I must admit I read the first one and almost laughed!
    I can see how they are easier to understand, however of the patients who may not understand the current labels, how many would bother to try and read them in the first place?
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Was it you Pharmanaut who made a thread on BNF labels and ideas for new ones ? Had a look at the new ones on the online BNF and in an attempt to try and simplify them, they have made them quite long and wordy. Seems like some of the aspirin ones have been removed as well.
    The aspirin ones removed relate to Aloxiprin (aspirin derivative) and Benorylate (benorilate) aspirin-paracetamol ester(?).
    Not really a loss.

    We do need some new ones...
    Such as "Contains Ibuprofen".
    Some of the computer systems have that one on.

    Anyone wondered why the warnings can't be pre-printed onto the manufacturers packaging?
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Suppose you would need a standardised labelling system across Europe - manfs would probably have it written in really tiny lettering anyway, with the brand name or company logo in big bright font.
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    Experts call for clearer medicine labelling | News | Nursing Times
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Font preferably in dull yellow.
    Similar to headings in PJ.
    Making things harder to read makes us check them more carefully.
    Isn't it obvious?
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    So i've finally got round to opening my PJ and read this article.....made me chuckle, and i understand the thread slightly more now lol

    But how thick are some people not to be able to understand the wording..hardly rocket science....So avoid alcoholic drink....to me that means, don't drink alcohol, but they now have changed it to "Do not drink alcohol" surely the same meaning, don't know how any MOP who doesn't understand the verb "to avoid"

    Looks like we have really dumbed it down....

    wonder how much Prof raynor et al got paid for doing this...i could ahve done it for a fraction of the price and from the comfort of my own home....

    what next..are we to take the medicines for the patients??
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Quote Originally Posted by crit care View Post
    So i've finally got round to opening my PJ and read this article.....made me chuckle, and i understand the thread slightly more now lol

    But how thick are some people not to be able to understand the wording..hardly rocket science....So avoid alcoholic drink....to me that means, don't drink alcohol, but they now have changed it to "Do not drink alcohol" surely the same meaning, don't know how any MOP who doesn't understand the verb "to avoid"

    Looks like we have really dumbed it down....

    wonder how much Prof raynor et al got paid for doing this...i could ahve done it for a fraction of the price and from the comfort of my own home....

    what next..are we to take the medicines for the patients??
    Another chuckle - how many people can read other than text speak?

    Try this one....
    Space d doses evenly thruout d dy. kip takN dis medCN 'til d corZ S finshd, unl ur tld 2 stop
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmanaut View Post
    Another chuckle - how many people can read other than text speak?

    Try this one....
    Space d doses evenly thruout d dy. kip takN dis medCN 'til d corZ S finshd, unl ur tld 2 stop
    understood that one more so than the ones the BNF wants us to put on labels!!!

    Maybe we could just hand out medication and if we get asked any questions just reply...yeah but no but..bovvered!!
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    Re: BNF Cautions : Plain English Update

    Quote Originally Posted by crit care View Post
    understood that one more so than the ones the BNF wants us to put on labels!!!

    Maybe we could just hand out medication and if we get asked any questions just reply...yeah but no but..bovvered!!
    Or use the universal one...
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