Is there ANY work in N.Ireland?

[geordie1]

Whats the job situation in NI like at the moment, especially in the belfast area? IS there any permanent rolls in either hospital or community?


If not what about locum work, is there much available?

[lamzee]

Nothing going of any sort. Loads of NI locums are defecting to Scotland.

[johnep]

I would love a "permanent Rolls", preferable in sky blue. 'Roles' was the word you were looking for. When a tap is turned on to fill a bath, it is sometimes only when the water is overflowing that the tap is turned off. At the moment the water is lapping the top and overflowing will take place shortly. Looks as if East Anglia is last remaining outpost of the locum.
johnep

[geordie1]

haha yes, my bad on the spelling of roles!

Would anyone recommend a particular agency for work in NI. Do hospital jobs get advertised through NHS jobs?

[culchie82]

This is how bad it's got. It will get to this stage where you will earn more money pushing trolleys in Tesco, as working as a Pharmacist in NI. Ridiculous.

Exclusive: Northern Ireland locum rates dwarfed by British colleagues - Chemist + Druggist

[Fleegle]

Just did a quick calculation.

£12.50 an hour based on a 40 hour week for 46 weeks per annum equates to an annual income of £23,000.

I would like to take this opportunity to invite posts from members who are agreeing to work for that, along with a brief explanation why...
Ladies and gentlemen, I await your responses.

Fleeg.

[culchie82]

It's shocking stuff fleegle, 5 years of training equating to £12.50 an hour! The more you say it, the more pathetic it gets. Anybody in Ireland considering applying for Pharmacy, should seriously sit back and take note of this. I can only hazzard a guess that they are not willing to move country, not willing to retrain in other fields, and most of all not willing to die of starvation!

[BDZ-BOT]

£12.50 an hour is better than zero or the dole. Some people aren't mobile enough to work in the UK perhaps due to family ties.

As for why they wouldn't get other work: It's Northern Ireland, there is no other work.
The economy is strangled by the legacy of the troubles and UK taxes when the souths 12% corporation tax is just down the road.
It's going to get worse with the cuts to government spending because thats the only money comming into the place.

[culchie82]

You're right £12.50 an hour IS better than nothing or the dole. It's just sad it's come to this point, there is a wider issue here though. I think that there has to be a big change in emphasis in the north, a shift away from the traditional academic routes advocated by the North's grammar schools. Why not a greater encouragement of entrepreneurial ideas and skills. Many of these schools are living in dream land - they're sending these students off to Uni in persuit of professions where there are simply no jobs. Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Architects, Teachers, Solicitors - there's no jobs in any of these professions in NI. If your not studying Medicine or Dentistry at university in NI, then you are completely wasting your time. Sure there are plenty of jobs in Britain, but many aren't willing to move away from their homeland.

[johnep]

You have hit the nail on the head. As well to realise that further education is not for the benefit of the students, but for their lecturers who wish to maintain their academic way of life. 100 years ago it is true that the professions were for the second sons of the gentry. Grammar schools enabled people like me to aspire to entry, but the laws of supply and demand are paramount. All the government wants is to keep the figures for youth unemployment down. It is a dreadful thing to contemplate, but Romans reduced numbers by decimation and wars have done this ever since.

Just imagine the population problems if there had not been a first world war. The education system benefited from the large number of ladies who had lost their marriage chances. At the school where I taught, the headmistress was engaged, but her future husband was killed on the Somme.

The girls I was teaching said they would be not be teachers because 'teachers never got married'. We had confused the cause with the effect.

The law of unintended consequences applies to so many things.

I don't have the answer.
johnep