'The money isn't as good'

[Asterix]

Looks like you've learnt something from that vancomycin thread...

If pharmacists at band 8 and above prove that they are a valuable and important member of the multidisciplinary team (which they are and they can) contributing to patient safety and if trusts can prove that such posts are needed locally, then they will be there in the future don't you worry.

I always apply anything I have learnt of you or anyone else for that matter, hence the constant questioning . I even went to the extent of explaining in the npa module thread about why specific brands have to be prescribed to add onto John and your point.

Back onto topic, financial status of most trusts isn't great across the country and hopefully it will improve and such posts become available which would automatically cause an attraction into hospital sector don't you worry

[pharmer7]

Its just one of those things we as pharmacists have to deal with. Its depressing, but in the scheme of things, pharmacists are just a footnote ( in the view of management/general public/government ).

[Ap0thecary]

Regret you will have to get used to this. The public thinks that all pharmacists own the business and drive expensive cars. The staff consider pharmacists as grossly over paid and the multiples treat pharmacists like mushrooms. The Government just sees pharmacists as a resource to be exploited.
johnep

Amen!

[Ap0thecary]

All pharmacists should be able to move back and forth between hospital and community pharmacy as this acts as a good means of improving knowledge in both fields.

An interesting concept, although community appears to be converging to more business acumen, whilst hospital is more clinical.

[Ap0thecary]

Clearly we know what motivates you then Asterix. After 4/5 years in hospital you'll be earning a lot more than a nurse or senior nurse. My salary, including a generous on-call allowance is closer to 30k than 25k - I think many 23 year old graduates would love that kind of salary. Not exactly breadcrumbs is it ? Let's not kid ourselves, we all would like more money but on an NHS salary I can comfortably pay off my student loan and have a good work/life balance.
Regarding retention yet again you have focused on money. I honestly think we won't attract more people into the NHS even if the pay did improve - perceptions of what we do need to change, more needs to be done to get students interested and involved with patients, putting the clinical knowledge into practice and getting the experience of working with patients and HCP's before you graduate.
I hate getting into discussions in threads about the different sectors of pharmacy, as they invariably degenerate into arguments about money.

I agree with this post in many aspects however how many doctors and dentists would have entered that profession if they perhaps was on the same payscale as pharmacists? Yes we are going onto stereotyping territory, but hand on heart, how many people do not have a slight inclination into the salary before entering a profession?

[Ap0thecary]

[QUOTE=Nik;63155]Why do you care what a senior nurse earns ? Haven't they gone through rigorous training as well ? Do they not deserve a good salary ? Do you feel that you're above them and so you have to be earning more money ?

So all those who are paid more than a pharmacist are "above" them?