coproxamol

[tengreenbottles]

I have read all your comments - and have calmed down. Yes the 5% number does seem a little more sensible and even then, none of those deaths actually have a clinical description of what caused death. Its simply attributed to Co-Proxamol. J's comment about most suicides in the UK being down to CP was utter nonsense and there's no way on earth that was going un challenged. The comment about us having to suffer was beneath contempt.

But having said that.... I'm over it now.

I know what dealing with crappy customers can be like, trust me, I do. I may not be a chemist but I was in a front line job for many years!

Today I have managed to procure some Co-Proxamol. Total luck in the end really. Having a conversation with a regular in a roadside cafe I go to about this. He told me (amazing luck) he had two boxes of them he didn't need as they didnt agree with him. Codeine Phosphate (sorry if i spelt that wrong) was the one that worked for him.

I asked him i could have them and God bless him, he said yes. So, a 50 mile round trip and thats a months worth sorted out. Now I have to decide, buy online (about £50 per 100), have a holiday somewhere like Malta and buy some there then move to one of 5 regions of the UK near me I have identified doctors who will prescribe.

Not that I should have to do all that nonsense, but hey ho.

One thing. Tonight is the first night Ive been free of pain AND able to function properly for quite some time. Normally being free of pain requires zombie strength doses of other drugs!

By restricting co-proxamol all the MHRA have done is allow criminals to prosper. People will still take it - they will just be ripped off thats all. Strangely enough I don't feel like killing myself - even though Big Brother is on the TV and I cant get the remote to work!

[bobbin]

I have read all your comments - and have calmed down. Yes the 5% number does seem a little more sensible and even then, none of those deaths actually have a clinical description of what caused death. Its simply attributed to Co-Proxamol. J's comment about most suicides in the UK being down to CP was utter nonsense and there's no way on earth that was going un challenged. The comment about us having to suffer was beneath contempt.

But having said that.... I'm over it now.

I know what dealing with crappy customers can be like, trust me, I do. I may not be a chemist but I was in a front line job for many years!

Today I have managed to procure some Co-Proxamol. Total luck in the end really. Having a conversation with a regular in a roadside cafe I go to about this. He told me (amazing luck) he had two boxes of them he didn't need as they didnt agree with him. Codeine Phosphate (sorry if i spelt that wrong) was the one that worked for him.

I asked him i could have them and God bless him, he said yes. So, a 50 mile round trip and thats a months worth sorted out. Now I have to decide, buy online (about £50 per 100), have a holiday somewhere like Malta and buy some there then move to one of 5 regions of the UK near me I have identified doctors who will prescribe.

Not that I should have to do all that nonsense, but hey ho.

One thing. Tonight is the first night Ive been free of pain AND able to function properly for quite some time. Normally being free of pain requires zombie strength doses of other drugs!

By restricting co-proxamol all the MHRA have done is allow criminals to prosper. People will still take it - they will just be ripped off thats all. Strangely enough I don't feel like killing myself - even though Big Brother is on the TV and I cant get the remote to work!

TGB,

Glad you're feeling better. Co-proxamol was formerly so widely prescribed that there must be thousands of people with cupboards full of it!

[Jeff]

TGB
Instead of focussing on the co-proxamol (about which we can do very little) tell us more about your pain and its causes and lets see what (if anything) else we can come up with.

Jeff

[johnep]

Oh well it has been a good dust up. Locally Drs will prescribe Co-Proxamol as long as the pt signs a note exonerating the Dr. You could also try asking for a private script. 'The few must suffer, that many survive' not from me but a quote. I will obtain the source for you.

I have actually not volunteered any viewpoint of my own, your dementi is typical of several posters we have had in the past with dogmatic views and who will not suffer any possible criticism.

I concede that you are right and the rest of us are wrong. Good luck with your quest. I am withdrawing from this particular affray.
johnep

[johnep]

Google turned this up when I searched for the quote origin.


RHS Bibliography - "That some must suffer for the greater good" ...

johnep

[tengreenbottles]

Google turned this up when I searched for the quote origin.


RHS Bibliography - "That some must suffer for the greater good" ...

johnep

Why cant you just apologise? That quote you dragged up from google has got nothing to do with co-proxamol. The comment you made was YOURS and was in relation to me. Most words have been spoken before. We choose to use them again when we want to make a point - like you did.

That stat you came up with, what was it "............largest cause of death by suicide in the UK" I guess you cut those words out of some obscure backwater in google and then pasted them into your argument as well. Again, nothing to do with co-proxamol.

The others on here have been both reasonable and informative with their replies. You have been neither. I cant believe youre a chemist, but if you are then I pity your customers.

If you haven't got anything useful to add to the thread - why post?

Anyway, enough about you.

Jeff, thanks for your kind offer of help. I would rather not discuss my condition on a public forum but please be assured that over the last decade, I think Ive tried most combinations / treatments. I have the co-proxamol I need now and I have a way of getting more. I fear that there are many that are not so lucky. Thank you all the same for your offer.

[Sir_Dispensalot]

just a thought tgb (or can i use 'greenie'? sounds nicer )

if your gp won't do it for you via the nhs and as you quite rightly say, it is vital to your treatment there are two other options:

1. pain clinic after a hospital referral - a consultant may be willing to sign you off for it despite your gp's reluctance.

2. what about the private route? I have several patients at my new pharmacy who have it privately instead. the only downside is the price - sometimes we can get hold of it for 7 quid for 100, sometimes over 20 quid. But at least you would be getting a safe, legit source for your co-prox - one that hasn't been sat in grannies' kitchen cupboard for five years or one that's a half drug, half floor sweepings fake.

[Jeff]

TGB

You could consider this as evidence of a reduction in suicides due to a reduction in co-proxamol prescribing

Effect of withdrawal of co-proxamol on prescribing and deaths from drug poisoning in England and Wales: time series analysis -- Hawton et al. 338: b2270 -- BMJ

Jeff

[Rafael]

BBC NEWS | Health | Painkiller ban 'has cut suicides'
18-06-2009
The controversial withdrawal of a common painkiller has dramatically cut suicides, say researchers. A gradual phase-out of co-proxamol led to 350 fewer suicides and accidental deaths in England and Wales, a study in the British Medical Journal reports.

[SolomonQ]

same story as cold and flu meds being restricted from young children, "oh my child's been having calnight since he was 2" "they've recently restricted these types of medicines to children that young because of all the side-effects", the box says over xyz years" "blank look"