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    shan is offline King Amongst Members
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    Overseas pharmacists should check UK-working status

    Check this out before thinking of coming over for an OSPAP. Don't complain later that you were not warned

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    Re: Overseas pharmacists should check UK-working status

    hello everyone,

    i copy and paste the following news from Pharmalife.
    does it mean it is better to get into the course at Aberdeen in order to obtain a Tier 1 visa?
    it looks like non-EU students graduating from other universities(such as Brighton or Aston) might not be able to garantee a working visa due to the number of limit?

    please comment on my interpretention.

    THank you
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    National Recruitment Scheme for Pre-registration Trainee Pharmacists in the NHS in England and Wales.

    Welcome to the application website for National Recruitment Scheme for Pre-registration Trainee Pharmacists in the NHS in England and Wales.


    HOT OFF THE PRESS – 11 August 2010
    Government policy to limit non EU-Economic migration: Implications for the issue of Certificates of Sponsorship (CoS) and Tier 2 - General visas.
    Non EEA applicants need to obtain permission to work and stay in the UK in order to undertake pre-registration training. The government has introduced measures to limit the number of migrant workers through Tier 2 of the Points Based System (PBS). Temporary limits are already in place and permanent limits will be in place by April 2011. It is not yet known how the limits will be set. However we do know that employers will be given a reduced allocation of CoS compared to the previous year’s allocation.

    Graduates from the following courses are eligible for pre-registration training:


    MPharm – this course is available at all UK Schools of Pharmacy
    MSc Overseas Assessment Programme (OSPAP) – this course is available at Aberdeen university only
    OSPAP Postgraduate Diploma (PgDip) – this course is available at Aberdeen, Aston, Brighton and Sunderland
    The types of visas that may be used for non EEA graduates undertaking pre-registration training are as follows:
    Category Eligibility
    Tier 1 - Post-study work Non-EEA MPharm graduates and MSc OSPAP graduates (Aberdeen University only)
    Tier 2 - General (sponsored skilled workers) Non-EEA MPharm graduates, MSc OSPAP and OSPAP PgDip graduates


    In previous years we have not made recommendations as to which visa is more suitable and have left this decision to be made jointly between the employer and employee. HOWEVER THE NEW LIMITS ON TIER 2 – GENERAL VISAS HAVE LED US TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS.

    We recommend that all those eligible for Tier 1 – Post-study work visas should use the Tier 1 route (i.e. all non-EEA MPharm graduates and all MSc OSPAP graduates (Aberdeen University only) should apply for Tier 1 – Post-study work visas.

    The reasons for this recommendation are as follows:


    The government has not announced any intentions to limit the number of Tier 1 - Post-study work visas
    Whilst non-EEA MPharm graduates and MSc OSPAP graduates are eligible to apply for a Tier 2 – General visa, the government’s intention to limit the number of Tier 2 visas makes this a riskier option than Tier 1 - Post-study work
    Permanent limits on the number of Tier 2 visas will be put in place by 1 April 2011. Therefore if the quota of Tier 2 visas has been reached at the time of application the Tier will be closed.
    The employer is likely to be reluctant to use the Tier 2 route for those eligible for other routes as this will use up their allocated quota of CoS
    Every CoS issued for someone eligible for a Tier 1 – Post-study work visa prevents someone ineligible (e.g. an OSPAP PgDip graduate) from obtaining a Tier 2 visa
    Unfortunately OSPAP PgDip graduates are not eligible for Tier 1 – Post-study work visas and will have to continue to use the Tier 2 – general route.

    We ask employers to discuss our recommendations with their local Human Resources department when appointing non-EEA applicants. For non-EEA appointments, please specify clearly in job offers and contracts that appointment to the position is subject to necessary immigration clearance and specify the type of visa required.

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    Re: Overseas pharmacists should check UK-working status

    A) Do you have a communicable disease; physical or mental disorder;
    or are you a drug abuser or addict?

    B) Have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime
    involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled
    substance; or have been arrested or convicted for two or more
    offenses for which the aggregate sentence to confinement was five
    years or more; or have been a controlled substance trafficker; or are
    you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities?

    C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or
    sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and
    1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with
    Nazi Germany or its allies?

    D) Are you seeking to work in the U.S.; or have you ever been
    excluded and deported; or been previously removed from the United
    States or procured or attempted to procure a visa or entry into the
    U.S. by fraud or misrepresentation?

    E) Have you ever detained, retained or withheld custody of a child
    from a U.S. citizen granted custody of the child?

    F) Have you ever been denied a U.S. visa or entry into the U.S. or
    had a U.S. visa canceled?

    If yes: when & where

    The above are the questions asked of every visitor to the US under new visa rules. Perhaps we should introduce them to the UK
    johnep

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