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    Question Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Hello,
    I am an Italian pharmacist (I graduated last year but I've only been locuming until now), I'm registered with the General Pharmaceutical Council, I've done some voluntary work in UK, I'm currently carrying out the CPPE MUR accreditation.
    I would love to work in UK, but I'm finding it difficult to find a job while still living in Italy so I was wondering about the possibility of renting an apartment for a few months (this way I could improve my English and I could look for a job locally (door-to-door)).
    While talking to some locums, I've been suggested to look for places where people are less educated (I suppose where there are still no Pharmacy courses, as people tend to accept offers where they graduated) such as the South-West, Scotland (from what i got not everybody is willing to move this north)...
    I was wondering if some of you could suggest me where are the most chances to find a job (big cities would have more pharmacies but perhaps no vacancies whereas small villages are less appealing to pharmacists), as the big chains are looking for pharmacists that have already many accreditations and hours of experience under their belts (and they're not interested in voluntary work either...)
    Please feel free to share any experience/recommendation/suggestion.

    Thanks,

    Matt

    PS Please delete my other post on the international forum, I'm really sorry for that, still learning

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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    As Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece collapse, expect more questions from hopefuls who have heard easier to get a job in the UK than British born. Perhaps they could move into Public Service and save the government money. Teachers etc from EU could get here before Wednesday.
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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Quote Originally Posted by johnep View Post
    As Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece collapse, expect more questions from hopefuls who have heard easier to get a job in the UK than British born. Perhaps they could move into Public Service and save the government money. Teachers etc from EU could get here before Wednesday.
    johnep
    Not exactly the kind of answer i was looking for, however I'll take the chance to ask you something:
    At one time, the UK was divided in several small countries and people that lived in (let's say) Cornwall were seen as foreigners to people who lived in Norfolk. Now, would you say that it would not be appropriate for a Cornish pharmacist to apply for a job in Norwich? I wouldn't say that, however at one time I could have. If you come to Italy you would have the same rights I have and you could apply for a job without problems and trust me, there are plenty of British people that have come to Italy looking for some "Bella Vita" (Good Life) and Good Climate (or to Australia, New Zealand, USA ... statistics are clear on this point).
    At any time in history there has been a certain migratory flow from one place to another, it has always been like that and it will always be. We live in Europe, politics is changing, the global market is changing, you can't do nothing about that, because everybody looks for a better life so it's quite normal for an Italian pharmacist to try to find a job in UK or for a British businessman to open a holiday resort in Sardinia.
    I am really interested in your point of view, so please keep posting, this is what forums are supposed to be used for.

    Thank you,

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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Everybody living east of the Tamar is still seen as a foreigner in Cornwall, but to answer your question there aren't the problems you describe. Since devolution though there have been significant differences in practice in England,Wales, Scotland and N Ireland so you'd to consider those when moving
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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Very true. In the past Europeans emigrated to Australia and America because their population densities were low. Now the world population has doubled in my lifetime and has done so at an accelerating rate. Could be 20 billion by the end of your life. In the past the four horsemen inexorably reduced population. Now we have achieved death control but not birth control. America and Australia not so welcoming as they were and unless we have another Ghengiz or similar, then what is to be done?. Had the population of UK increased at the same rate as the rest of the world, then our population would be above 100 million. (was 53 million when I was young). Numbers of young men looking for a better life will multiply rapidly. This will lead to conflict in some form.

    In the meantime you are not the only one hoping to have that better life in the UK. Expect a rush on Wednesday.

    "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. "

    This now appears to be the UK motto.

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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ushio78 View Post
    I've been suggested to look for places where people are less educated (I suppose where there are still no Pharmacy courses, as people tend to accept offers where they graduated) such as the South-West, Scotland
    Based on the suggestions you have received and the comments you have made, I strongly suggest you avoid the South-West and Scotland. They are both densely populated by Celtic heathens who still deeply resent the intrusion of the Romans. The Scots were even expected to knock down the badly-built wall the Italians created when it became too cold (or rather they became too frightened) to travel further north. Italians in Scotland usually sell bad pasta, soggy chips or runny ice cream, which is grudgingly accepted. Let's keep it that way, because as a 'less-educated' nation, the Scots really do not require the presence of any more European parasites, along with their impending Euro bail-out problems and miniature ex-Prime Minister.

    He is now the third richest man in Italy, apparently..How did that happen? Welcome to your 'Bella Vita'.

    Fleeg. (just another uneducated Scot)
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    Great post Fleeg. No, we did not get complaints about the Romans when we were in the magnificent highlands, but heard a lot about the Duke of Cumberland. Glenfinnan was a truly magical place, no wonder Harry Potter filmed a scene there.
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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleegle View Post
    Based on the suggestions you have received and the comments you have made, I strongly suggest you avoid the South-West and Scotland. They are both densely populated by Celtic heathens who still deeply resent the intrusion of the Romans. The Scots were even expected to knock down the badly-built wall the Italians created when it became too cold (or rather they became too frightened) to travel further north. Italians in Scotland usually sell bad pasta, soggy chips or runny ice cream, which is grudgingly accepted. Let's keep it that way, because as a 'less-educated' nation, the Scots really do not require the presence of any more European parasites, along with their impending Euro bail-out problems and miniature ex-Prime Minister.

    He is now the third richest man in Italy, apparently..How did that happen? Welcome to your 'Bella Vita'.

    Fleeg. (just another uneducated Scot)
    I think there has been some misunderstanding and do apologize for that. I didn't intend to say that the Scots or people from South West are less educated, that's why I added my interpretation of the locum's words between parenthesis "I suppose were there are no Pharmacy courses".
    Now, we could talk about the Church of Rome and how it killed many people during the Crusades or how it destroyed the Celtic culture, we could talk about Italians making awful pasta and being just able to make some ice-creams or pizza, or that many Scots hate Englishmen and viceversa, or that it's considered racist to name oneself an English but it's not in the case of a Welsh or a Scot... what that for?
    I am really sorry if you thought I was referring to Scotland as a non-educated country, but as I said above this isn't really my line.
    Now, let's move to Mr Berlu5c0ni: he is really hated by most Italians; he is a bully, a pervert and he ashamed us more that you can imagine. The only reason he was able to become Prime Minister is because he owns every media source in Italy (TV, Newspapers ...) and because at the time of his election the other candidates had really bad political campaigns. We hope that with Mario Monti Italy will be able to solve some of his problems, and more than all we are sure we won't have to be ashamed of ourselves anymore because of the miniature aforementioned one.
    Another point: regarding to the italian economical situation, it's really complicated, it's not that we pass all day sunbathing instead of working, in fact we are very financially prudent. Even economists find this situation weird, have a look there BBC News - What's the matter with Italy? just to have an idea. It's the whole global market that has gone crazy.

    I hope we have sorted things out, if not, please tell me what has offended you as I'm really an easygoing and friendly person, and I'm really not used to argue with people (especially in this circumstance as I assure it was a misunderstanding).

    Matt
    Last edited by Ushio78; 27th, November 2011 at 11:54 AM.
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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    And there we were thinking you were an excitable, passionate latino.
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    Re: Where to look for a job (areas with vacancies)

    The employment situation here in the south east is very very bad.

    Please don't come to the UK and add onto our problems - thank you very much.

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