NHS prescriptions as Private

[SolomonQ]

read my lips "no one is going to give a damn" just like we english never do. lets jus blame the immigrants and the muslims (im one) lol

[Zoggite]

Originally Posted by Pharmanaut

Watch what happens from 1st April, when the charge in Scotland reduces with the intention of phasing it out.
Should make for interesting News and Newspapers for the day.

What'll happen is probably exactly the same as what happened from April 1st 2002, when Wales started to reduce charges with the intention of phasing them out.
And since april 2007, they have been scrapped altogether, and it's wonderful, a lot simpler at the end of the month!
What is the English charge going up to on April 1st: £7/item?

[JonF]

Originally Posted by Zoggite

What is the English charge going up to on April 1st: £7/item?

at least it'll be easier to work out multiple charges without a crib sheet on the till!

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by JonF

Last year i saw a dentist privately. He gave me a NHS Rx for antibiotics? How does that work!

Ask your local PCT loudly and often for a list of dentists which are registered with the NHS because you don't want want to inadvertently be a participant in a fraud against the NHS.

When that fails ask them to indemnify you against any action for being a participant in dispensing dental NHS prescriptions that the dentists aren't entitled to issue.

That at least that was the route that worked in my patch.

When I asked under the FOI act the PPA did not know how many prescriptions have been dispensed against scripts from dentists that do not have an NHS contract.

Jeff

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by SolomonQ

he said a similar case occured in wales a few years back and it was ecided that the prescrition script was the property of the NHS and must be returned to them.

It was argued that the script was the property of the NHS - but never decided because the PCT (FPC or whatever it was then) bottled out of bringing any charges.

The counter argument is that the dispensing tax should not be related to the cost of the drug.

Jeff

[SolomonQ]

Originally Posted by JonF

at least it'll be easier to work out multiple charges without a crib sheet on the till!

I find multiplyin by 10 easier, and gettin bak onto the point, if new regulations for puting the price of drugs on the pack come into place, thats gona be fun to observe when patients realise theyve just paid >£6.85 for amoxicillin 250mg costin less than 60p, would be also funny to observe all the stick the owner pharmacists will have to take for 90p dispensing fee and 87p remuneration (~17p profit) they recieve from the PPA for dispensing it. wat would be funnier is the non-owner pharmacists gettin the same stick but not benefiting in anyway. LOL!!!

Reduce wastage....your having a laugh!!!!!

[mr_colt]

I think I get the gist of what your saying but;

A lot of people (me included) who are on Incapacity Benefit don't get free prescriptions as IB is classed as "income" (whereas unemployment JSA and IS are not) and the long-term IB rate is just above the threshold for a HC2. I agree too that the NHS dispensing fee in England is a rip-off but: At the same time I need 30-60 Ondansetron 4mg tabs per month; thats over £214 on a private script. About 65% on the money I get every month on a single script item? Impossible.

Not to mention those fancy Butrans patches are not exactly cheap either. Ergo here is the problem. If you abolish the NHS fee then there can be no PPC system for the people need regular costly meds but don't quite make one of the "free" categories. It may not longer affect me as a change in circumstance has got me a HC2 now; but there are many more in the position I used to be.

Just look at how flawed and overstretched Medicaid is in the US.

mr_colt.

[SolomonQ]

I think someones got the wrong end of the stick, what I meant was to abolish the NHS fee altogether as has HAPPENED in Wales and is happening in scotland. that would help mostly people in your situation who need regular medication but do not qualify for exemptions. Doesnt mean you need to pay the full cost of drugs if this happens, and i only suggested treating those prescritions as private that involved medications costing way less than £6.85 e.g. amoxicillin (~87p for PCT)

[lamzee]

If the government lost enough tax revenue by not getting all their 6.85s, they would have to stick a few more pounds on the old income tax to balance the books. So you would and up subsidising this out of your pay packet.

[Zoggite]

Originally Posted by lamzee

If the government lost enough tax revenue by not getting all their 6.85s, they would have to stick a few more pounds on the old income tax to balance the books. So you would and up subsidising this out of your pay packet.

But isn't that the main principle of Social Solidarity- the Rich pay for the Poor? My income tax is paying for the primary & secondary education of kids, yet I don't have any, so why should I have to subsidise the education system? (I'm playing Devil's Advocate, here!)

And another question: what would happen to the NHS budget if everyone who isn't entitled to free Rxs, bought a PPC? would that raise more, or less revenue than the current "per item" fee system?