ECDR Trial

[LeftArm]

I agree that ideally any eCD register is better linked to the PMR system. A register that completes as the items are processed through PMR is most desirable. People are generally suspicious of IT and I think they are nervous to give up their paper copies for an electronic one.
IT users tend to blame the machine. If an entry is not recorded incorrectly I can already hear "The computer didn't record the dispensing in the register", "The computer recorded the wrong quantity", "The computer recorded MST instead of MXL" etc. etc.
The Proscript register looks pretty robust though.

I downloaded and installed the ECD-REG trial and the first thing it did was to reset the screen to 1024 * 768 and run itself full screen. It doesn't look to good on a wide screen monitor. The colours are garish and the interface is inconsistent (buttons and menus). Task manager shows that it is using over 100Mb RAM when running? On exiting changes had been made to Internet explorer settings and a browser window that had been open was minimised but wouldn't restore.

What programming language and database is used?

[rafhelp]

It would be possible to do this. It would require communication between a PMR systems and ECDREG. This would enable it to be used as both standalone aswell with your PMR.

This would require work done by both developers of the PMR and ECD-REG.

But as ecdr are goverened by strcit law most PMR developers would choose to develop their own 'inbuilt' ecdr to give them more control and better integration with existing PMR system.

Like I said it was a learning experience anyway.

[Pharmanaut]

Like I said it was as learning experience anyway.

Agree with your there - I bet you are really skilled up now.
Most of us just struggle along with computers and got very annoyed when the new windows PMRs started to appear.
I remember one pharmacist say they would "NEVER GIVE UP THEIR DOS SYSTEM".
Wonder if they are still using it?

[trulylovelyperson]

OK Maybe not relevent but husband(also pharmacist) manages health centre pharmacy catering to dep cat 6 area and hence pretty huge Methadone numbers and uses lap top add on system which provides approved CD register print outs which get - very high tech here - glued in to existing CD register. Which saves amazing amount of time if your clients number over 200.
Main system used is now Proscript but was a previous Link user and know that same add on system is used by those using cegidem (?spelling) so might be worth a look.
It seems to cope with most doctors foibles including reducing scripts and supervision on days determined by some zenist GP.And hubby is closed weekends Sat/Sun and also extended public holidays enjoyed by gPs due to joint alarm system for entire building.(Yeh, tragic - chortle. You should see the nasty health board letters exorting weekend opening for pharmacies in an area already well served by four other businessnes - none of which want to carve up their weekend takings so another pharmacy in the area really not required
Please reply if you require details of who to supply this v. useful system - and I will try to get them off husband tomorrow for you.
Am not in anyway profiting from this which probably makes me dumb as well as truly lovely.........but hey;we pharmacists need all the help ...etc.

[LeftArm]

Methameasure perhaps? We have a branch that uses this.

MethaMeasure - Home

[trulylovelyperson]

Nope..........wanna try again?

[rafhelp]

When I first put this on the market (and yes it was most probably the first working electronic controlled drugs register) most pharmacists complained that it wasnt linked to their PMR. They wanted the entry to be made automatically when they labelled it on their PMR. But would this not cause problems? For example say you had 40 methadone addicts asome observed some non-observed. So you label all of them in the morning and prepare them (measure, bag etc..) now if your ecdr was linked to your PMR once you made the label it would then get entered into your ecdr automatically, Great! Oh maybe not, what if half of those you labeled were not actually collected? those entries were still made in the ecdr though? As entries are indelible as such you woudl then not be able to delete those entries. does anyone else agree that a standlone ecdr is better and safer?

[LeftArm]

In Proscript you can prepare the methadones without adding them to the register until they are collected.

There are still quite a few PMR users who view the computer as a "labelling machine" with no other function. Even encouraging people to regularily check email can be hard work. A separate CD machine may be needed. There is also the double entering of the same data which is frustrating.

[johnep]

Should be easy enough at the end of the day, or first job next morning, for system to bring up all PMR entries for CDs. Then have button to confirm entry into ECDR.
johnep

[Pharmanaut]

When I first put this on the market (and yes it was most probably the first working electronic controlled drugs register) most pharmacists complained that it wasnt linked to their PMR. They wanted the entry to be made automatically when they labelled it on their PMR. But would this not cause problems? For example say you had 40 methadone addicts asome observed some non-observed. So you label all of them in the morning and prepare them (measure, bag etc..) now if your ecdr was linked to your PMR once you made the label it would then get entered into your ecdr automatically, Great! Oh maybe not, what if half of those you labeled were not actually collected? those entries were still made in the ecdr though? As entries are indelible as such you woudl then not be able to delete those entries. does anyone else agree that a standlone ecdr is better and safer?

Just a question of making the functionality work in the PMR flexibly.
Also don't forget that unlike GP computer suppliers, our pharmacy suppliers are paid like pharmacies.
They get paid by their customers when the software is delivered through the EPS allowance.
Therefore they have all concentrated on delivery of EPS sometimes to the detriment of other functionality.
If you look at the process of accreditation you'll see that its not a case of slapping a few lines of code together. Lots of hoops to jump through.