What degree results do pre-reg employers look for?

[giggsy]

Even getting a third will secure you a good job right?

[Titch]

Originally Posted by giggsy

Even getting a third will secure you a good job right?

I think it's getting more competative to get pre-reg places but if you do work experience with one of the multiples or in a hospital, you usually get offered a place off the back of that.

Have not heard of any pre-reg offer being conditional on degree class - just on passing of degree!

[johnep]

In the old days:

1st enabled you to skip National Service.

1st or 2:1 required to have any chance of getting Ph.D. grant.

2:2 General run of grads, industry, hospital or community.

3rd or pass. community.

Now grades are used to select for pre reg, simply because of too many chasing too few places.

As most undergrads had already completed apprenticeship in times past, plenty of post grad places available for others.

Other factor was that as majority of pharmacists owned pharmacies, their pre reg offspring usually did pre reg under father's/mother's supervision.

No stories of bullying then. After pre reg year, either take over the family pharmacy or become a rep so you could scout out new opportunities.

Those really were the days, except for those of us who had no background of pharmacist parent and ready made business.
johnep

[giggsy]

Originally Posted by johnep

In the old days:

1st enabled you to skip National Service.

1st or 2:1 required to have any chance of getting Ph.D. grant.

2:2 General run of grads, industry, hospital or community.

3rd or pass. community.

Now grades are used to select for pre reg, simply because of too many chasing too few places.

As most undergrads had already completed apprenticeship in times past, plenty of post grad places available for others.

Other factor was that as majority of pharmacists owned pharmacies, their pre reg offspring usually did pre reg under father's/mother's supervision.

No stories of bullying then. After pre reg year, either take over the family pharmacy or become a rep so you could scout out new opportunities.

Those really were the days, except for those of us who had no background of pharmacist parent and ready made business.
johnep

I am sure you have said before degree class doesnt matter.

[johnep]

Degree class only matters where two people competing for same job.
johnep

[Petey]

I passed my degree nearly ten years ago and never once been asked for my degree classification. Only question I ever seem to come across on forms etc is the type of degree and where it was attained.

I always just list it as BPharm (hons) - Bath

[giggsy]

Originally Posted by johnep

Degree class only matters where two people competing for same job.
johnep

yer but thats likely to happen loads, 2 people for the same job right

[kemzero]

Originally Posted by giggsy

Even getting a third will secure you a good job right?

You've got to aim higher than a 3rd .....some people on this forumhave even rubbished a 2:2 , not to say a third

I'm sure you can get a pre-reg place with a 3rd ( forget hospital though) but if one aims for a third ....an ordinary pass/fail could be what they end up with

[paul2008]

Originally Posted by kemzero

You've got to aim higher than a 3rd .....some people on this forumhave even rubbished a 2:2 , not to say a third

I'm sure you can get a pre-reg place with a 3rd ( forget hospital though) but if one aims for a third ....an ordinary pass/fail could be what they end up with

I thought that a third was the lowest pass mark. How does it work in the UK? UZ had 1, 2.1, 2.2, 3 and fail.

Have noticed in the UK pass seems to be 40% for most things. Since I am used to having to score at least 50% I usually scrape a pass without too doing much work

Paul

[Steve G]

Originally Posted by paul2008

I thought that a third was the lowest pass mark. How does it work in the UK? UZ had 1, 2.1, 2.2, 3 and fail.

Have noticed in the UK pass seems to be 40% for most things. Since I am used to having to score at least 50% I usually scrape a pass without too doing much work

Paul

1st is highest (>70% ave)
then 2nd, which is subdivided into upper (2:1) and lower (2:2). 2:1 is 60-70% ave, and 2:2 is 50-60% ave.
3rd (or a pass) is lowest - 40-50% ave.
the percentages are from Aston - other uni's may alter their boundaries slightly.

It is quite difficult to get a 3rd in pharmacy - there are quite a few modules where you are required by the RPSGB to get at least 50%.

Degree class doesn't really matter in community - I took my degree cert in to work on the first day of my pre-reg and the comment was 'we've never seen one of these before'.

Degree class is probably more important if you want to go into industry or academia - it's tough to get onto a PhD with less than a 2:1.